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		<title>by: &#187; 诗人物理学家 mushroom&#8217;s room</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-15456</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-298</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2006 04:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>王云：

非常感谢！

作为做理论的人，希望出现不寻常的观测结果，然后大家可以玩些花样。我在理论上是有严重倾向的人，希望能将landscape否定了。

国内缺乏能够同时分析不同实验的人，只能仰仗你们的结果。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>王云：</p>
<p>非常感谢！</p>
<p>作为做理论的人，希望出现不寻常的观测结果，然后大家可以玩些花样。我在理论上是有严重倾向的人，希望能将landscape否定了。</p>
<p>国内缺乏能够同时分析不同实验的人，只能仰仗你们的结果。
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		<title>by: Yun Wang</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-296</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks! I used to write poetry in Chinese, but switched to English a couple of years after I came to the U.S., when I had trouble finding people who would be interested in reading my poems in Chinese. I enjoy sharing my poetry with people -- the only way I made friends in college days :-) 

I read what Shaefer posted on your blog -- what he said sounds perfectly reasonable. The use of GRBs provide a promising new method for probing dark energy, but it will be some time before it matures to the same level as the use of supernovae. I wouldn't put too much weight on the first results --
Shaefer doesn't seem to either. An interesting thing about the dark energy data at present is that unexpected results go away when better data or more robust analysis techniques are used. In my paper Wang &#38; Mukherjee (2004), using the Tonry &#38; Barris supernova sample, we found that dark energy density deviates from constant at about 1.5 sigma. Then in my paper with Tegmark later in 2004, using the Riess sample (which contains more z&#62;1 supernovae), we found that dark energy density is consistent with a constant. In both of these papers, we included constraints from CMB and galaxy surveys in a self-consistent manner, which is a practice I highly recommend but not always practiced. Anyway, I think it will take a space mission for dark energy to really tell us what dark energy is. Just like the Hubble constant controversy was settled by the HST Key Project on H_0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I used to write poetry in Chinese, but switched to English a couple of years after I came to the U.S., when I had trouble finding people who would be interested in reading my poems in Chinese. I enjoy sharing my poetry with people &#8212; the only way I made friends in college days <img src='http://limiao.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I read what Shaefer posted on your blog &#8212; what he said sounds perfectly reasonable. The use of GRBs provide a promising new method for probing dark energy, but it will be some time before it matures to the same level as the use of supernovae. I wouldn&#8217;t put too much weight on the first results &#8211;<br />
Shaefer doesn&#8217;t seem to either. An interesting thing about the dark energy data at present is that unexpected results go away when better data or more robust analysis techniques are used. In my paper Wang &amp; Mukherjee (2004), using the Tonry &amp; Barris supernova sample, we found that dark energy density deviates from constant at about 1.5 sigma. Then in my paper with Tegmark later in 2004, using the Riess sample (which contains more z&gt;1 supernovae), we found that dark energy density is consistent with a constant. In both of these papers, we included constraints from CMB and galaxy surveys in a self-consistent manner, which is a practice I highly recommend but not always practiced. Anyway, I think it will take a space mission for dark energy to really tell us what dark energy is. Just like the Hubble constant controversy was settled by the HST Key Project on H_0.
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-288</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>王云，

欢迎！

应该说你的诗使得我的博客更加有内容，希望看到你的更多的诗。我只写中文诗，而且很少写，将2000年以后写的收集在一起大概也只有十来首。

希望你常来。最近Schaefer关于GRB的结果不知你怎么看？我们在等他的数据出来。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>王云，</p>
<p>欢迎！</p>
<p>应该说你的诗使得我的博客更加有内容，希望看到你的更多的诗。我只写中文诗，而且很少写，将2000年以后写的收集在一起大概也只有十来首。</p>
<p>希望你常来。最近Schaefer关于GRB的结果不知你怎么看？我们在等他的数据出来。
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		<title>by: Yun Wang</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-287</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hello, Li Miao,

Now that my poems have made it to your blog, I am truly famous :-)
I am delighted to find out that you are a fellow poet, in addition to being
a fellow cosmologist. We should chat more next time we meet.

My poetry book "The Book of Jade" contains poems I wrote from the late
1980s to 2001 -- I don't write that much poetry. Dark energy is still what
I spend most of my time on, so have no fear :-) I hope that we'll find out
what dark energy really is within the next twenty years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Li Miao,</p>
<p>Now that my poems have made it to your blog, I am truly famous <img src='http://limiao.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I am delighted to find out that you are a fellow poet, in addition to being<br />
a fellow cosmologist. We should chat more next time we meet.</p>
<p>My poetry book &#8220;The Book of Jade&#8221; contains poems I wrote from the late<br />
1980s to 2001 &#8212; I don&#8217;t write that much poetry. Dark energy is still what<br />
I spend most of my time on, so have no fear <img src='http://limiao.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I hope that we&#8217;ll find out<br />
what dark energy really is within the next twenty years.
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-109</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>很高兴在这里见到王云的师弟（师妹？），谢谢你贴的Harold Furth的诗。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>很高兴在这里见到王云的师弟（师妹？），谢谢你贴的Harold Furth的诗。
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		<title>by: nunia</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-108</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>i know her. She's in class 80 and i am in class 84. Our dorm was Bldg 6. Wow! I admire her very much that after 20 years, she still love and do what she was doing back then. I wonder if she've read this poem by Harold Furth 91930-2002), former director of Princeton Plasma Physics Lab.

"Perils of Modern Living" 
(published in 1956 by the New Yorker magazine. excerpt from 'Fusion - search for endless energy' by Robin Herman)

Well up beyond the tropostrata
There is a region stark and stellar
Where, on a treak of anti-matter,
Lived Dr. Edward Anti-Teller.

Remove from Fusion's origin,
He lived unguessed and unawares
With all his anti-kith and kin,
And kept macassars on his chairs.

One morning, idling by the sea,
He spied a tin of monstrous girth
That bore three letters:A.E.C.
Out stepped a visitor from Earth.

Then, shouting gladly o'er the sands,
Met two who in their alien ways
Were like as lentils. Their right hands
Clasped, and the rest was gamma rays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i know her. She&#8217;s in class 80 and i am in class 84. Our dorm was Bldg 6. Wow! I admire her very much that after 20 years, she still love and do what she was doing back then. I wonder if she&#8217;ve read this poem by Harold Furth 91930-2002), former director of Princeton Plasma Physics Lab.</p>
<p>&#8220;Perils of Modern Living&#8221;<br />
(published in 1956 by the New Yorker magazine. excerpt from &#8216;Fusion - search for endless energy&#8217; by Robin Herman)</p>
<p>Well up beyond the tropostrata<br />
There is a region stark and stellar<br />
Where, on a treak of anti-matter,<br />
Lived Dr. Edward Anti-Teller.</p>
<p>Remove from Fusion&#8217;s origin,<br />
He lived unguessed and unawares<br />
With all his anti-kith and kin,<br />
And kept macassars on his chairs.</p>
<p>One morning, idling by the sea,<br />
He spied a tin of monstrous girth<br />
That bore three letters:A.E.C.<br />
Out stepped a visitor from Earth.</p>
<p>Then, shouting gladly o&#8217;er the sands,<br />
Met two who in their alien ways<br />
Were like as lentils. Their right hands<br />
Clasped, and the rest was gamma rays.
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-82</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>哈哈，您来啦。我正要睡觉呢，我学韩乔生，圣诞节刚过，给您拜个晚年：）</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>哈哈，您来啦。我正要睡觉呢，我学韩乔生，圣诞节刚过，给您拜个晚年：）
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		<title>by: 邋遢妖道</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-81</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-81</guid>
					<description>老猫新年吉祥、丰收。

还没有机会仔细拜读，
肯定把板凳搬过来是绝对不会吃亏的。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>老猫新年吉祥、丰收。</p>
<p>还没有机会仔细拜读，<br />
肯定把板凳搬过来是绝对不会吃亏的。
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-80</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-80</guid>
					<description>谢谢老杜！欢迎常来。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>谢谢老杜！欢迎常来。
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		<title>by: 老杜</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-79</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-79</guid>
					<description>祝贺老猫的博客开张。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>祝贺老猫的博客开张。
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-78</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-78</guid>
					<description>切尔西客场打阿森纳的那场当然看了，切尔西的比赛我每场必看，如果因为某种原因看不了，过后下载看。我看阿森纳较少，觉得今不如夕的原因是走了维埃拉，皮雷等人状态下滑，年轻人还没有上来。不过，即使是当年鼎盛的阿森纳，遇到穆里尼奥大概还是不行。

王云直接用能量密度，大概是因为在红移－亮度关系中状态方程因子w的进入比较间接。

他们的那本书的内容我早忘了：）</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>切尔西客场打阿森纳的那场当然看了，切尔西的比赛我每场必看，如果因为某种原因看不了，过后下载看。我看阿森纳较少，觉得今不如夕的原因是走了维埃拉，皮雷等人状态下滑，年轻人还没有上来。不过，即使是当年鼎盛的阿森纳，遇到穆里尼奥大概还是不行。</p>
<p>王云直接用能量密度，大概是因为在红移－亮度关系中状态方程因子w的进入比较间接。</p>
<p>他们的那本书的内容我早忘了：）
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		<title>by: plilj</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-77</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 11:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-77</guid>
					<description>对于英超来说，我并非哪个球队的fan，只要踢得好看的都称赞，前些日子，西哈姆联队打的漂亮，我也挺欣赏的。不过不太赞同你说阿森纳对弱队才能打出来的说法，觉得那时候的阿森纳有和打法硬朗的球队抗衡的资本，那时候的中场和后卫都很平衡，而现在已经是千疮百孔了。阿森纳对切尔西那场你看了吗？切尔西进攻和防守的速度都是阿森纳所难以企及的，输球也是在所难免的；没有了强大中场的支援，亨利还不能成为神。

我顺带着看了王云的网页，她做的物态方程方面是用密度rou对z做展开的，并且说这样的方法比用W对z做展开的要好，好像能给出来更强的限制。这个方法的可信度真的就提高了吗？ 再说了，她上面说要用SNe Ia做标准烛光，需要红移大于1，而高红移方面的数据现在的可靠性应该是比较差吧？

另外，今天下午看你的导师方先生和鲁菲尼写的那个科普的最前面几页，讲电子和质子的带电量的例子，好像就用了最朴素的人择原理吧，不知道你注意过没有。^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>对于英超来说，我并非哪个球队的fan，只要踢得好看的都称赞，前些日子，西哈姆联队打的漂亮，我也挺欣赏的。不过不太赞同你说阿森纳对弱队才能打出来的说法，觉得那时候的阿森纳有和打法硬朗的球队抗衡的资本，那时候的中场和后卫都很平衡，而现在已经是千疮百孔了。阿森纳对切尔西那场你看了吗？切尔西进攻和防守的速度都是阿森纳所难以企及的，输球也是在所难免的；没有了强大中场的支援，亨利还不能成为神。</p>
<p>我顺带着看了王云的网页，她做的物态方程方面是用密度rou对z做展开的，并且说这样的方法比用W对z做展开的要好，好像能给出来更强的限制。这个方法的可信度真的就提高了吗？ 再说了，她上面说要用SNe Ia做标准烛光，需要红移大于1，而高红移方面的数据现在的可靠性应该是比较差吧？</p>
<p>另外，今天下午看你的导师方先生和鲁菲尼写的那个科普的最前面几页，讲电子和质子的带电量的例子，好像就用了最朴素的人择原理吧，不知道你注意过没有。^_^
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		<title>by: 李淼</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-72</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-72</guid>
					<description>看来你是阿森纳的fan。我觉得阿森纳的所谓唯美只是针对弱队才能打出来，当时打曼联就不行。切尔西按照弗格森的说法是将英超提升了，其他队学切尔西的经验后阿森纳的唯美打法就更加打不出来了。你的口味和我家里的一个人一样，他喜欢的球队是阿森纳，Inter和拜仁。

对z做展开来拟合实验当然不太可信。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>看来你是阿森纳的fan。我觉得阿森纳的所谓唯美只是针对弱队才能打出来，当时打曼联就不行。切尔西按照弗格森的说法是将英超提升了，其他队学切尔西的经验后阿森纳的唯美打法就更加打不出来了。你的口味和我家里的一个人一样，他喜欢的球队是阿森纳，Inter和拜仁。</p>
<p>对z做展开来拟合实验当然不太可信。
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		<title>by: plilj</title>
		<link>http://limiao.net/40#comment-71</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://limiao.net/40#comment-71</guid>
					<description>昨天也看了那场，现在切尔西的打法在英超算是超强的吧，穆里尼奥把切尔西提升了一个档次（他总是能用对人，不服不行）。我倒是很欣赏鼎盛的阿森纳的配合，那种唯美的打法现在不适合在英超生存了，而且没有大投入还总是卖人肯定是不行的。我最喜欢的球队是inter（希望以后有机会去意大利）。

说到暗能量的物态方程，七月份CCAST的会上，北大的范老师讲了到把W对z做展开的方法，并且给了Princeton的Seljak等人的数据。你觉得这个对z展开的方法可靠吗？我一直很怀疑，但又说不出来具体的理由（先假定W是个常数就难以服众）。

没有想到你们还都有欣赏诗的雅兴，PF，PF。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>昨天也看了那场，现在切尔西的打法在英超算是超强的吧，穆里尼奥把切尔西提升了一个档次（他总是能用对人，不服不行）。我倒是很欣赏鼎盛的阿森纳的配合，那种唯美的打法现在不适合在英超生存了，而且没有大投入还总是卖人肯定是不行的。我最喜欢的球队是inter（希望以后有机会去意大利）。</p>
<p>说到暗能量的物态方程，七月份CCAST的会上，北大的范老师讲了到把W对z做展开的方法，并且给了Princeton的Seljak等人的数据。你觉得这个对z展开的方法可靠吗？我一直很怀疑，但又说不出来具体的理由（先假定W是个常数就难以服众）。</p>
<p>没有想到你们还都有欣赏诗的雅兴，PF，PF。
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